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Showing posts with label war loot exploit. Show all posts
Showing posts with label war loot exploit. Show all posts

Thursday, August 4, 2011

I Am A Cheater

TLDR alert! :D
I'm pretty vocal about the fact that I don't really give a fig newton who's cheating and who's not, as it rarely affects my game. I'm also pretty vocal about the fact that I think people spend too much of their time worrying about who is cheating, especially about the war loot exploit thing. That being said, it's also no secret that many people are very worked up over the subject, so regardless of my personal opinion, even I reached out and asked Zynga to do something about the problem.

The only time those dastardly Scrubbers annoy me is when they use the script to join operations, which they won't complete until the next time they happen to actually be at the computer and in the mood for some ops action. I get rid of those players because of how they affect my game and that of my friends. It sucks waiting on stalled operations.

The issue with Scrubber and the war loot is now common knowledge, but trouble with it has been brewing for a long time. One of my former friends and admins made the issue a personal crusade of his, and he was unhappy that I didn't 'support' him on the matter.
"Misty, . . .why don't you make a public statement that you believe in cheating and glitch exploits? We can pigeon-hole you next to MWLL then."
Ok then, I will, because I know he's not the only one who's wanted me to speak openly about similar topics.

You can try to pigeonhole me all you want, but as others have already found, making assumptions about me and my game made an ass out of them. That person is well aware that I didn't NOT support him, that it simply was not a personal issue of mine.We all have our issues with the game, and war loot exploits was not one of mine. That certainly doesn't mean I didn't recognize that there were others that shared his opinion.  Because I think people are too overwrought on the subject doesn't mean I approve of "glitch exploits". Me saying that people should spend less time b*tching about what others are doing and more time playing their own game does not translate to I "believe in" the war loot exploit.

I have always made it a habit to stay familiar with many of the scripts out there. I do use some scripts personally, and keep track of several other scripts for documentation and research purposes, as well as to answer the questions I frequently get asked about them. I am aware that this is against Zynga's TOS, but I don't consider this cheating. You'll never get Zynga to give blanket or specific approval of third party scripts, but I don't think even Zynga considers me to be a cheater. They've publicly said that they are aware that there are beneficial scripts.

In the years I've played Mafia Wars, I've gone through different levels of script usage. I remember back when I first discovered MWAP, I spent days fine-tuning and running it. Days at a time, sometimes. I've also done some underground script testing in the past. I'd guess those are probably my two biggest Mafia Wars transgressions - that I did at one time fully automate, and that I have used an underground script (don't ask 'cause I ain't tellin'. it was over a year ago anyway).

Automation is boring, though, because I generally like to be very involved in my game. Firstly, because I just really like playing Mafia Wars, and secondly, because I'm always posting about the game so I want to know what's going on. That's sorta the same reason I grew out of my E-ho phase. Doing the same thing over and over isn't as fun, and you give up a lot of variety in your game play because all your skill points went into energy and/or stamina.

That brings me to another area of "cheating" - multiple accounts. Oh yes, I have them, ::gasp:: My original account was all disorganized because I had no idea what I was doing when I first started playing Mafia Wars. So I made a new account, and as any of my friends and disappointed family can tell you, I started playing exclusively on the new account. Do I still have the original account? Yes, as I have all my friends and family there, but I remember to check the account maybe once a month, if that, and I can honestly say I never play Mafia Wars on that account for any reason.

I do have a "baby fighter" account, which I play with varying degrees of frequency. Since I'm trying to be completely honest, I also have various alt accounts which were and are sometimes still randomly accessed for testing or other purposes. They aren't played, and I usually only check them when I'm looking for a new feature that hasn't hit my account yet. Most of them were around before I ever played Mafia Wars, when they were used for similar purposes for another game I used to play called Knighthood.


My second account is the one where many of you first remember me from. The big level 5k+ E-ho. As I previously said, I eventually tired of the E-ho game path, and started over again almost a year ago. As most of my friends can attest, I no longer play the old E-ho account. I do sometimes access it for documentation purposes - it has 24k energy and 8k stamina, so it's great for drop rate studies.

I also dusted off the old account for the Death By Ice event. I'm told that some of the forum creepers wanted to know what my thoughts about the {ASS} debacle was, as it's no secret that I was originally an {ASS}. Oh I'll be happy to tell you - the whole situation seriously pissed me off. I was hugely annoyed that certain clan players decided that new redtag groups were "fake", alleging that the formation of such groups was an insult to the game. I disagree - I'm not in a clan, but I thought the idea of a group put together specifically to compete in the Death By Ice event sounded fun! I thought the Assassin-a-nators group name and tag were funny. I have no problem with people using Assassin-a-nator, and I use it some myself.

image from MWLootLady
It never occurred to me that other players would actually organize pages against the {ASS}es, that people would virtually lie to my face, and exaggerate about things that were being said and done. While a lot of people didn't like the {ASS} or similar groups for various reasons, the big hullabaloo was the machination of only a few instigators. I was so thoroughly disgusted with the behavior of other people that I just stopped playing. That was the first night of event. I was later told that I was removed from the group since I wasn't playing, and that was fine by me.

As to all the things that followed, I can't really speak specifically about them, as I wasn't involved in it. Setting up auto-healing minis wasn't an idea that occurred to me and likely isn't something I would have bothered with. I can understand why some people were upset about that point.

I'm sure I would have used Assassin-a-nator some, but as others have tried to prove and failed, I don't do a lot of automation. I do a lot of fighting manually, and also use Assassin-a-nator to run out my stamina, depending on my inclination. I don't leave scripts running overnight or even for extended periods of time, and I don't consider my moderate use of such scripts to be cheating. I don't really care how much or for what purpose other people are using scripts, as long as it doesn't affect me. And it usually doesn't.

So there you have it, all my dirty little secrets. Enjoy. I hope you're happy now.


Mafia Wars: War loot ROLL BACK screw up

Since the first whispers of war loot roll backs, many players have been worried about getting caught in Zynga's sweep even if they didn't deserve to be. I really thought that, with the time Zynga was taking, they would be thorough and take pains to NOT roll back innocent players.

As soon as the roll backs started happening last night, it was immediately apparent that lots of people had been unfairly caught up in the sweep. At first I reserved judgement, wondering how many people were complaining who really deserved it.  But when the second round of rollbacks started, and I started looking at the stats of some of those affected, the problem was glaring.

 
My friend Gloria Carroll posted this picture on her profile to express how she feels about this situation, and she's definitely not in exclusive company. Lots of people are PISSED.

And lots of people got Mo' Pissed when Zynga put out their "customer support" document about the rollbacks. It has the usual blah-blah-blah to say, but the last paragraph contains the slap in the face to those unfairly rolled back.
"Because this issue was caused by abnormal behavior we will not be able to restore those stats or offer compensation for the issue."
While there's no question that some individuals deserved the rollback, it seems that Zynga missed the boat in this situation. In their effort to be stern and firm on the subject, they've basically said they aren't going to sh*t for the players who didn't deserve to be rolled back.

I call bullshit. And so do a lot of others.

Check out these Get Satisfaction threads that have sprung up overnight on the subject. Look at all the likes and comments on all of them. Zynga won't listen? I think they have to.

http://getsatisfaction.com/mafia_wars/topics/who_is_to_be_blamed_for_the_excess_war_loots

http://getsatisfaction.com/mafia_wars/topics/zynga_mis_handling_roll_back

http://getsatisfaction.com/mafia_wars/topics/war_loot_decreased_is_a_bad_judgement

 http://getsatisfaction.com/mafia_wars/topics/zynga_bs

http://getsatisfaction.com/mafia_wars/topics/answer_us_zynga

 If you were rolled back and do not believe you should have been, contact Zynga's customer support.

Wednesday, August 3, 2011

WAR LOOT ROLLBACKS

Gee thanks, Zynga!!!!



OK, I understand that you're trying to level the playing field between war bots and non war bots, but gimme a break. Oh, I see. You gave me some extra items. OK, now I'm feeling all "warm & fuzzy". But what the heck did you give me?

If I used RP to declare a few extra wars and got extra war loot, then why am I targeted for a rollback. Didn't I pay for that extra loot?

I think this calls for a consultation visit with Customer Service. Might not do any good but it's worth a shot.

[Update: There is an FAQ now available at Declare War rewards adjustments, but still no word on what items people were given as part of the "credit" process. - Nancy]

War loot rollbacks kick off

Yes, the buzz is correct, the war loot rollbacks have already started, as many players are now finding out. Some are saying they got rolled back and didn't deserve it. In fact, quite a few are saying that. If you feel that you have been unfairly caught in this sweep, you should definitely contact customer service.

All I can say is, thank jeebus. They took longadamnnuff.

Scrubbers - hate yer luck, but you can't say you don't deserve it. Scrubber haters, shut the #$%^ up now and play your own game. I am so sick of people arguing about this.

Friday, July 29, 2011

more info on War Loot Rollbacks

Late yesterday, the Mafia Wars blog posted a quiet little update about the upcoming war loot rollbacks. The original public announcement was made two days ago during Mafia Wars Live. This blog post does supply some additional information, such as that these rollbacks will be occurring "over the next few weeks" and that it will only affect tier 2 high-end war loot and above. Here's what they say:
Declaring war and helping your friends out with their wars is a great way to collect some awesome loot. Because the war loot is so awesome, we limit how much of it can be collected in a day to maintain game balance.

We have discovered that some of you have collected more than you should have. We will be reclaiming this extra war loot over the next few weeks. This will only effect non-giftable, tier 2, high-end war loot and above.

So, to recap: If you have collected more high-end loot from wars than you should have, we will be adjusting your quantity of that loot to what you should have earned within the appropriate limits.

Thursday, July 28, 2011

WAR LOOT ROLLBACKS ANNOUNCED


You may have heard about a little workaround or glitch that allowed some players to receive unlimited loot from helping in wars. You might have also heard about a little script called the Scrubber. There's been a bit of cheatermania going around. Mania or not, though, a lot of players are really upset about this issue and Zynga should be doing something about it. 

My personal viewpoint on the matter? I don't really give a fig newton about someone maxxing out on war loot. I'm a follower of the skill point, and I don't usually go out of my way for loot items. I sure as hell don't waste time trying to figure out and getting upset about who's cheating. As paranoia among my friends grew about war loot exploiters, the subject frankly became a pain in the ass. I wish Zynga would hurry up and fix it so people would stop their bitching and get back to their games. Believe me, I have given Zynga an earful on the subject.




I found out last week this was in the pipeline, but I've started to wonder what's taking Zynga so long to fix this issue. Finally, last night on Mafia Wars Live, they announced that "there's going to be some adjustments to some accounts" in addition to changes to prevent this exploit. Mike Nestor singled out the exact clip of video from the broadcast in which this is addressed. It's quite short, so you can hear it for yourself. Credz to Nestorface and the Loot Lady blog for this clip.

Here's what Nate said:
"Declare War, there's been some issues with that, and some exploiting going on. Shame on you guys, shame. We're going to be rolling out some changes to that and rolling out some changes to prevent the exploits from happening. There's going to be some adjustments to some accounts to bring it back to a fair, level playing field. There will be more information on that, it's something that is very needed. We wanted to make sure we had an understanding of what's going on and be able to focus to make the right changes happen to the right people"
I know a lot of people are worried about getting wrongfully caught in this rollback sweep, but I think you guys will probably be ok. The last part of what Nate says is about making the right changes to the right people.